Newsgroups: sci.military.moderated From: Ed Rudnicki <erudnick@pica.army.mil> Subject: Anti Starlight Camouflage Clothing Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 00:32:03 GMT Lines: 65 This was forwarded to me by someone in the USMC who says he can't post himself. These words are not mine. _____________________________________________________ The Scout/Sniper section of the Marine battalion I was in in Desert Shield/Storm did some experiments with the 'desert night camou coats and trousers'. We were all quite skeptical that these new suits did any good. The tests involved comparing visibility of Marines (standing, kneeling, prone, and moving) wearing the chocolate chip (day cammie) and green night cammie outfit. The subjects were observed on two nights: one that had 100% cloud cover (very dark) and the other with minimal cloud cover and about 50% lunar illumination. Observers used the naked eye, PVS-4s, PVS-5s, and the infrared TOW sight. Results: Across the board the green 'desert night cammie' coveralls increased the chances of being observed. Perhaps this suit was effective vs the older PVS-2 systems but vs all the other systems it was less than ineffective. The only time the green 'night cammie' suit did not assist the observers was during the 'dark' nights when observed with the naked eye. The bottom line: someone bought a bill of goods with those suits. Some have stated the qualities of the suits could not have withstood numerous washings - the ones we wore were BRAND new, not been worn previous to the tests, and were kept dry. Two interesting other results: 1. A couple of Marines did not get the word (what's new) and brought sets of winter overwhites (as in they brought the kit you'd expect to see men wear in Norway) - actually they brought them intentionally to see what use they would be. Against both the PVS-4 and PVS-5 the overwhites were extremely effective - under both lunar illumination conditions. We even had Marines move to within 20 meters of the observers (from 200 meters) without being seen - wearing overwhites. Of course this was in Saudi Arabia (grid ??????) which had sand that was pretty clean. Once we got into the oilfields I am sure it would not have been as effective. 2. The infrared TOW sight was superb and no outfit mentioned under no lunar illum conditions was able to hide. BUT - Marines are ingenious and someone brought out a space blanket (not the cheap ones you get at the end of a marathon but the thick one with a green backing). If you carefully wrap yourself in the space blanket the TOW sight was not effective - I do not recall which side of the blanket needs to be towards the TOW sight but it did make a difference. Unfortunately, the space blanket vs the illumination intensifier sights (PVS types) was not effective. We figured that the thermal qualities of the space blamket kept the Marines heat in and thus defeated the TOW IR sight. I will always chuckle when I see or hear of the desrt night camouflauge parka and trousers. Next thing we will get is blue paint for the bottom of our boots ???? |