From: ((Steven B. Harris))
Subject: Re: Labido?
Date: 25 Apr 1995
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

>Mike Davis (xdcrlab@quake.net) wrote:
>: In article <frankfather-290395125137@frankfather.cs.bgsu.edu>,
>: frankfather@cs.bgsu.edu (Cathy ) wrote:
>
>: > Is there actually anything that will help a menopausal woman with a low
>: > libido to increase it??


   Most post menopaual women will benefit from female hormone
replacement (skin, sex organs, feeling of well being, even heart disease
risk), so you should get that done.  After that, assuming all
psychological factors are in order, you may want to see an
endocrinologist and get *testosterone* levels measured. These drop
somewhat after menopause in many women, and have effects on some women's
libido (libido in women is testosterone driven, in part, just as it is
in men).  The replacement testosterone dose is far less than what would
be given to a man, but at the same time can be quite effective for
certain women.

   An antidepressant called Wellbutrin has also been reported to
increase libido in some women.  Small doses of caffeine also.

   Of course, excersize and a good diet (and maybe even some reasonable
vitamin supplements) are also cornerstones of all physical well-being,
without which libido goes away.


                                      Steve Harris

From: sbharris@ix.netcom.com (Steven B. Harris )
Subject: Re: Genital Mutilation, etc.
Date: 13 Sep 1995
Newsgroups: misc.kids,talk.politics.medicine,soc.men,sci.med,alt.activism,
	alt.activism.children,soc.couples,alt.feminism,rec.org.mensa,soc.women

In <juliew8DEtzM4.35u@netcom.com> juliew8@netcom.com (JULIANNE WEIGHT)
writes:

>Steven B. -- we're not sniggering -- we're ROTFL!  How much time and
>money has been spent over the ages on male aphrodisiacs and improving
>male performance?

Answer: quite a lot.  But not as much as has been spent on female
beauty and adornment.

>  I think this thing about circumcisions has been
>started up by an environmentalist group wanting to divert attention away
>from rhino horns.

  No, from dried tiger penises.  Uncircumcised dried tiger penises.

>The LENGTHS (excuse the pun) men will go to in search
>of the perfect sexual experience and the opportunity (better yet) to
>brag about it are astounding.

   Not as astounding as the time women spend bragging about their kids,
and their husband's incomes!  And if you think that women spend less
time talking amongst themselves about the men they've slept with than
men spend talking about the women they've slept with, think again.
That's one of the great canards of the 20th century.  The man who keeps
the knowledge of his new lover entirely to himself is not that rare a
bird, but the woman who does is as rare as hen's teeth.

>I must say, that in two years of being the only female in a karate class
>as well as the only female training in the weight-lifting room, I became
>one of the guys.  And *never once* was the status of a guy's foreskin
>part of the discussion!

   This I believe.  I find it almost as wierd as you.

>Here's the joke I heard on the radio this a.m.  Three engineers are
>discussing the Creation and trying to decide what kind of engineer God
>was.  The first guy said "Had to be an electrical engineer.  Look at the
>brain and the nervous system and all the fine connections." The second
>guy said, "Naw, He had to be a mechanical engineer.  Look at all the
>muscles and bones and articulations." The third guy says, "No, I know for
>a fact He is a civil engineer because only a civil engineer would run a
>waste disposal system through a recreation area."



ROFL!!  A good one I hadn't heard.

                                        Steve Harris, M.D.

From: sbharris@ix.netcom.com(Steven B. Harris)
Subject: Re: Wife Has Low Libido
Date: 24 Oct 1996
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

In <32707890.3924116@snews.zippo.com> harouffd@top.net (Don Harouff)
writes:

>jet@cinenet.net (Jet Silverman) wrote:
>
>>AMassucci (amassucci@aol.com) wrote:
>>: What other substances can be used to stimulate female libido?
>>
>>Men
>Not really, men seem to have just the opposite effect. Usually due to
>poor timing.
>Don



  Not due to poor timing, rather due to poorness in general.  The basic
stimulants of female libido are money and power (almost the same
thing), but these are hard to put in a capsule <g>.

  A. I want an herb to stimulate female libido.
  B. I've got one I'll sell you.
  A. How much?
  B. A million dollars.
  A. Listen, buddy, if I had a million dollars, I wouldn't *need* the
     damn herb...



                                        Cynically and Truthfully Yours,

                                         Steve

From: sbharris@ix.netcom.com(Steven B. Harris)
Subject: Re: Wife Has Low Libido
Date: 29 Oct 1996
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

In <32761D99.2424@bankerstrust.com> Claude Dohrn
<claude.dohrn@bankerstrust.com> writes:
>
>Dr. Harris,
>
>If you had couched your original post in Darwinian terms, you
>might not have gotten the PC backlash.  There were once good
>reasons for women preferring powerful men; one could argue that
>there are still good reasons.  Some people, though, are
>irritated or discomfited by the fact that humans are influenced
>by drives which aren't PC.
>
>You know, on reading this prior to posting, I think that you
>quite likely would have gotten just as much backlash to a
>Darwinian framing of your (humorous) statement; it just would
>have come from a different group.
>
>Regards,
>Claude


   Maybe, but you'll notice that Darwin isn't PC either.  PC is just
shorthand for "left-leaning," and Marx thought Darwinism was just
Capitalism applied to biology (and in this was largely correct, as
Darwin had been reading Adam Smith, of all things, before coming up
with his great idea).  In general, leftists hate the idea that
everything humans do is not determined by class-struggle, which is to
say cultural programming.  Afterall, what do leftists have to work with
to change the world but cultural programming?  It's not as though most
of them were scientists and engineers.  They're mostly gay men and
women in university English departments (and various other PC
departments created just for them to have jobs in).

                                           Stirring the Pot

                                            Steve

From: sbharris@ix.netcom.com(Steven B. Harris)
Subject: Re: Wife Has Low Libido
Date: 29 Oct 1996
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

In <DzvBx6.E8o@blaze.trentu.ca> arogers@ivory.trentu.ca writes:

>In article <54nb3b$83k@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>,
>sbharris@ix.netcom.com(Steven B. Harris) writes:
>>
>>  Not due to poor timing, rather due to poorness in general.  The basic
>>stimulants of female libido are money and power (almost the same
>>thing), but these are hard to put in a capsule <g>.
>>
>>  A. I want an herb to stimulate female libido.
>>  B. I've got one I'll sell you.
>>  A. How much?
>>  B. A million dollars.
>>  A. Listen, buddy, if I had a million dollars, I wouldn't *need* the
>>     damn herb...
>>
>>                                        Cynically and Truthfully Yours,
>>
>>                                         Steve
>Steve,
>one word for you:
>                         ASSHOLE




   It's amazing how many people have decided that I'm an asshole for
suggesting that money and power stimulate the female libido (what, did
you people all grow up on Mars or something?)  How dare I suggest that
women are, in their way, every bit as superficial and self-serving when
it comes to sexual attraction as men are?  Why, the very idea.  Gee, I
*must* be an asshole even to entertain this politically incorrect
thought.

                                     Steve

From: sbharris@ix.netcom.com(Steven B. Harris)
Subject: Re: Wife Has Low Libido
Date: 29 Oct 1996
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

In <3273846A.6E41@interactive.net> Tamara <srdi@interactive.net>
writes:
>
>> >  Not due to poor timing, rather due to poorness in general.  The basic
>> >stimulants of female libido are money and power (almost the same
>> >thing), but these are hard to put in a capsule <g>.
>> >
>> >  A. I want an herb to stimulate female libido.
>> >  B. I've got one I'll sell you.
>> >  A. How much?
>> >  B. A million dollars.
>> >  A. Listen, buddy, if I had a million dollars, I wouldn't *need* the
>> >     damn herb...
>> >                                        Cynically and Truthfully Yours,
>> >                                         Steve
>> Steve,
>>
>> I guess that because _you_ are a woman, _you_ would know!?
>> Maybe you should be posting to alt.sexism or alt.asshole.
>>
>> Apalled and truthfully yours,
>> Kellie
>> kbonnici@trentu.ca
>
>Steve,
>
>Ya had to know that was coming.


   Of course.  I've come to realize that women have no better insight
into why they behave as they do, than men do into their own behavior.
But sometimes each can see something of the other.


>I hope you're not married, and if you're not, we all know why.
>-Tamara


   ROFL.  I hope you're not recommending marriage as a way to study the
female libido.  A much better way to study this phenomenon to have a
good look at groupies of all sorts.  But that takes honesty, which is
the first casualty in most conversations between the sexes.

                                    Steve

From: sbharris@ix.netcom.com(Steven B. Harris)
Subject: Re: Wife Has Low Libido
Date: 31 Oct 1996
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

In <E02M0M.C7z@blaze.trentu.ca> kbonnici@ivory.trentu.ca writes:

>In article <554hsk$hp4@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>,
>sbharris@ix.netcom.com(Steven B. Harris) writes:
>
>>   It's amazing how many people have decided that I'm an asshole for
>>suggesting that money and power stimulate the female libido (what, did
>>you people all grow up on Mars or something?) How dare I suggest that
>>women are, in their way, every bit as superficial and self-serving when
>>it comes to sexual attraction as men are?  Why, the very idea.  Gee, I
>>*must* be an asshole even to entertain this politically incorrect
>>thought.
>>
>>                                     Steve
>
>I don't know what kind of a world you live in/create for yourself, but
>where I live, I choose to surround myself with people who aren't *so*
>shallow. Are you watching too much Baywatch?
>
>Maybe I'm sheltered, maybe you are an asshole,
>
>Kellie
>kbonnici@trentu.ca


   And maybe you are a vaccuousity of the magnitude of the inhabitants
of Babewatch yourself.  Or maybe not.  Perhaps you don't discuss men
with other women in terms that remind one of how ticks might discuss
warm-blooded animals.  Perhaps you have a tale of having picked up your
husband while he was living with his parents, without a steady job and
with no prospect of one, just because you were intrigued with his
gentle nature, his sense of humor, and his thoughts about the last
dozen books he'd read.  Okay.  Perhaps you picked up the tab on those
dates also, just for the pleasure of his company?  A woman of ideas,
are you?

   Inquiring minds want to know.

                                         Steve

From: sbharris@ix.netcom.com(Steven B. Harris)
Subject: Re: Wife Has Low Libido
Date: 31 Oct 1996
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

In <E02MBM.CIn@blaze.trentu.ca> kbonnici@ivory.trentu.ca writes:

>Honesty, yup. Maybe you should honestly analyze your motives for writing
>such crap. Too bad you haven't experienced honest relationships. Maybe
>you will one day...


   I've experienced several honest relationships-- probably more honest
than any you'll ever know youself.  All I'm saying is that such
relationships between men and women are very rare.  Anyone who holds
differently is probably a fool.  YOU are probably a fool.

                                           Cordially,

                                           Steve






>Still appaled and disgusted with the attitude of some of the XY's
>
>Kellie
>kbonnici@trentu.ca

From: Steven B. Harris <sbharris@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Viagra - improve sensitivity?
Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:55:31 GMT

In article <355DC5C6.3A0D@livingston.net>,
	jxwright <jwwright@livingston.net> wrote:


>>    If a protractor measured protraction, it wouldn't give such crumby
>> scores.  The angle of the dangle is not the be-all and end-all.
>
>getting back to reality. women age and at some point are not as
>satisfying to the old male, because, i SUPPOSE, to the aging muscles in
>the woman. or it could be the lowered sensitivity in the male. which is
>it, doc?


If you can believe Ben Franklin, older women make better partners, "every
knack, by practice, being capable of improvement."  And he gives a lot of
other reasons, which sort of boil down to "They don't tell, they don't
swell, and they're grateful as Hell."

The texts say that if things are properly estrogenized and muscles are
kept up with exercise (use it or lose it), women have an easier time of
it with aging and sex than men do.  Which is what you'd expect.  Though
men do surprizingly well if they keep their arteries clean (diet,
cholesterol, diabetes, smoking, blood pressure, homocysteine control,
etc, etc).

                                               Steve Harris, M.D.