From: "Steve Harris" <sbharris@ix.RETICULATEDOBJECTcom.com>
Newsgroups: sci.med.prostate.prostatitis,sci.med,misc.health.alternative,
	soc.men,alt.romance
Subject: Re: An Ejaculation a Day May Keep Prostate Cancer at Bay
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:49:42 -0700
Message-ID: <bf6ul8$qde$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>

"nethead8" <nethead8@cox.net> wrote in message
news:lICRa.11273$u51.10818@fed1read05...
> My take: Male masturbation is condemned and is taboo for the reverse
> reasons female masturbation is encouraged. Women's advocates encourage
> women masturbating because it "empowers" women, and men are cut out of
> the picture entirely. But if that's the case, it holds true for men
> also...... Men are gaining satisfaction without having to supplicate
> themselves to a woman and their whims. And to a lot of women, that's no
> good. They lose the power that they hold over men that way.


COMMENT:

That's also the only reason I can think of why prostitution
is still illegal everyplace in the U.S. (excepting minor
counties in Nevada). It certainly isn't illegal in order to
protect prostitutes-- we all know that prostitutes suffer
greatly from having no legal recourse to getting robbed,
beat up, raped, etc-- all due to being unable to file proper
complaints that legal business people can do when they are
hurt by customers. Nobody appears to care. So there must be
some other reason for these bizarre laws which make illegal
prostitution very dangerous. Disease and public health
surveillance and control is easier if it's legal (just as
pharm labs are less danger fire-wise than illegal meth
labs). So what gives?

Subconscious female voter dislike of anything that looks
like competition at cut-rate prices, is the only reason I
can think of. No male-only population would ever vote
prostitution into illegality.

Prostitution is competition, because the unfortunate way of
the world is that sex is hardly ever as free as it may look
in the short term. Some years ago, Charlie Sheen became
notorious when it found he was a frequent user of Heidi
Fleiss's establishment. "But," the press asked him, "you're
a young, handsome, and rich movie star, so why should you
*pay* for sex?"

Sheen: "You don't get it. I'd don't pay them to have sex
with me. I pay them to *go home* afterwards..."

SBH

From: "Steve Harris" <sbharris@ix.RETICULATEDOBJECTcom.com>
Newsgroups: sci.med,misc.health.alternative,soc.men
Subject: Re: An Ejaculation a Day May Keep Prostate Cancer at Bay
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 15:39:21 -0700
Message-ID: <bfchao$o5k$1@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>

Sometimes it was, sometimes not. The Women's Suffrage
movement was fueled almost exclusively on antiprostitution
and temperance political themes, and after women got the
vote, prostitution got banned almost as fast as alcohol in
many places in this country (it was a real patchwork before
1920, but not for long after 1920).

The difference is that the blue laws that had to do with
alcohol have slowly been repealed since women got the vote.
But economic considerations have (except in empty parts of
Nevada) largely prevented the same thing from happening to
anti-prostitution laws.

Of course, prostitution was almost never illegal in Western
frontier towns where men greatly outnumbered women, and it
is not in the US Army to this day (where adultery actually
IS a military code violation). In WW II the Army merely
licensed brothels. I don't know what they do in foreign
ports these days, but it does involve looking the other way.
Though of course they still can't talk about it. Some
commander after a soldier rape of civilian in Japan not too
many years ago said that the man should instead have hired a
prostitute, and he promptly lost his job. So much for
reminding tender-eared civilians about Army life.

I'm guessing that before 1920 the female influence, even
non-voting, was enough to keep it illegal in larger cities,
and wherever "syphillization" was. Some places succeeded in
voting themselves "dry" before 1920, also.

SBH





"Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote in message
news:bfcadl$ngt$1@panix2.panix.com...
> Steve Harris <sbharris@ix.RETICULATEDOBJECTcom.com> wrote:
> > Subconscious female voter dislike of anything that looks like
> > competition at cut-rate prices, is the only reason I can think of. No
> > male-only population would ever vote prostitution into illegality.
>
> But prostitution was illegal back before women had the vote.